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  • I must confess, when I finally saved up 300 honor points, I was excited....until I got to the honor store and found I could not choose what I wanted...then I was disappointed.

    Disappointment turned to frustration when all I got for my effort was some AP recovery capsuls.  Really?

    Please change the honor shop so that you can choose what you need to buy.  thanks!

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    • An S planet or an S hero for just 300 honor points seems too easy lol

      If what you are asking happened then the developers would have to put different amount of honor points for each item and I imagine that the S planet and the hero would be really difficult to obtain in comparison with 300 points and a little bit of luck. But I like your idea.

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    • Its been addresed bu fury in previous thread about why it should be random. And imo fury is right and the system should be this way.

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    • Everything needs to have its own price I think that you can exchange whenever you want.

      750hp S-Rank Hero
      750hp S-Rank Planet
      500hp Rare Hero invite x2
      300hp 100 Crystals
      250hp 10 AP Refills
      200hp 5x 10k Cosment Capsule
      200hp x5 ADV Skill LD's

      Maybe add in low priced items like 2h boosters or tron parts or dark matter capsules with random amounts or have a expensive 1500hp that randomly gives you 4 things or something.

      Idk. But we should pick and there should be more for for us to pick from.

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    • Dunno. I get where the devs are coming from about the random part... I did finally get a Rank S planet invite... but I've also gotten cosments, two sets of 100 crystals, and one of the AP restores... so.... it's like trying to get rank S anything... lots of low level, and a few high level.

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    • I think the devs are doing therir best to stay close to the idea of free to play. Thats good news for those without extensive credit card facilities.

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    • yep. Fury had commented early on that they wanted to avoid pay to win. Honestly, if you were playing for free? 100 crystals is pretty valuable, just as it is. I may want a super Rank S hero....but, for 300 honor points? Meh.. it makes sense you're just spinning a wheel for a random prize.

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    • All righ All righ. I'll talk with devs again.

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    • 95.211.136.17 wrote:
      Everything needs to have its own price I think that you can exchange whenever you want.

      750hp S-Rank Hero
      750hp S-Rank Planet
      500hp Rare Hero invite x2
      300hp 100 Crystals
      250hp 10 AP Refills
      200hp 5x 10k Cosment Capsule
      200hp x5 ADV Skill LD's

      Maybe add in low priced items like 2h boosters or tron parts or dark matter capsules with random amounts or have a expensive 1500hp that randomly gives you 4 things or something.

      Idk. But we should pick and there should be more for for us to pick from.

      It's to expensive, I think... If you have less then 40 lvl, you need about 2 weeks and more to get 750hp (and if you spent all your AP on War), and if you spend all this HP on S-Rank Hero you may get a sh*t economist... Realy, it's too much! All of this items must have 300hp price... maybe excepting AP Refills, Cosment Capsule, Skill LD's for being competitiveness.

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    • Only do this when warring is fixed for everyone! - Everyone should be able to earn HP in the war regardless of level and right now that's not the case. AT least you get to earn HP and a random chance. In the top ranks you don't get this at all. It becomes a churn mill for the low level stuff.

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    • I definately against this idea. It's totally gonna turns to heavy pay2win. It's a good news for dev and player with heavy wallet.

      Btw, the dev should be aiming for long run gameplay. If they implement this, Heavy spender people will reach max power in short time.  And normal spender will be getting crushed even more and become discourage to spend more :)

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    • No they wont if rare items can't be bought..and thats how this works. All I'm saying is if rare items can't be bought then capping top 1-20 players and excluding them from warring totally is not entirely fair.

      Ther has to be some "pay" in this. If the devs don't get people buying crystals then you have no game for anyone. By making rare items un-buyable then that secures everyones chance. If a player chooses to buy crystals to multiply that possible chance everyone wins the devs, and the free to play. There you get your long run game play and whatever else. Special events, challenges etc.

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    • My only concern is one of the honor store item is Special S rank hero. What could be this "Special" means? is it like a normal Random S rank with random skill, ability, and stat? Or it's a s rank with a fixed nice ability, stat, and skill like the one you can get from the 900 (forgot the exact price) cyrstal booster pack?

      If it's the latest then won't it be too easy to get 5 nice OP hero? And yes, the high level is still being punished by no opponent. Even if the dev tell us to wait, everyone else seems to be taking their time in leveling and farming cosment it seems.

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    • Special heros are Rank S heros who are much more powerful than others. 

      ie. a battle master with spread fire can be one of them

      They are so powerful so right now, we are not concerning to allow you to buy one of them, but it might be unlocked after we have enough users.

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    • Here is dev's idea.

      We are not going to unlock it.

      This system is a random box, and we won't let you buy a specific item in the honorshop.

      Sorry guys.

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    • Fury3698 wrote:
      Here is dev's idea.

      We are not going to unlock it.

      This system is a random box, and we won't let you buy a specific item in the honorshop.

      Sorry guys.

      Ok, it's fair enough... But in the future will be a small problem: farm HP with a lot of players will be cost a too much time. I already think that War is not a good way to spend all AP. Here another question (sorry for off topic): what about Invite Points (P)? In GH you may choose a role of Hero which you will hire, but I get a second economist... I understand an idea of this, but collection of 300P requires a lot of time too... It's not a every-day process... Few weeks in mid-game...

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    • I think the random part is ok. I am wondering though, if the honor shop could be expanded, so that there are different levels of items to acquire. Like, one set at the 300 point rang, one at 500, and one at 1000, or some other price point. The 300 point could have a much lower change of getting the rank S hero, and you could also look at altering things at the higher cost levels. It would be an opportunity to change up what items are available. So, maybe at the 1000 point level, put one or two items in that are better than 300 point level, like higher cosments, or adv. Skill capusles, or adv training items. There are lots of ways to keep the balance and still give higher level players interesting items to look forward to randomly try to acquire.

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    • Kazper91 wrote:
      Fury3698 wrote:
      Here is dev's idea.

      We are not going to unlock it.

      This system is a random box, and we won't let you buy a specific item in the honorshop.

      Sorry guys.

      Ok, it's fair enough... But in the future will be a small problem: farm HP with a lot of players will be cost a too much time. I already think that War is not a good way to spend all AP. Here another question (sorry for off topic): what about Invite Points (P)? In GH you may choose a role of Hero which you will hire, but I get a second economist... I understand an idea of this, but collection of 300P requires a lot of time too... It's not a every-day process... Few weeks in mid-game...

      I think this would turn the game pay-to-win because I could easily spend cristals buying hero invites from shop and using them to get Invite Points and then using them to choose my hero easily. 

      I don't know if you have noticed already but of every 5 players I encounter in war at least 3 of them have 3 or more S rank fleet commanders and at least 1 of those 3 players has full S-Rank fleet.

      The game is releasing too much S-Rank heroes in my opinion, I myself have lots of S-Rank heroes although I only use 3 in my fleet because the rest has horrible stats but this has got me thinking that I would prefer the game to release fewer S-Rank heroes but of better quality.

      And to contribute with the thread about the Honor Store, I think it should stay as it is. Just look at the rewards for ending in Rank 1 in war of level 70, you gain 250 honor points for first place and that is a lot. Maybe you don't consider it now because of your level but high level players easily gather lots of honor points and use the honor shop more frecuently than a low level player.

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    • It is not hard to get regular rank S heroes. You get 2 recruit points for every hero you invite with regular hero invitations, and 8 points for the next rank invite and 40 points for invites above that. Every 300 points you get a guaranteed rank S invite.

      Since you can get hero invites as gifts, and in the campaign, it's actually pretty quick to get S heroes when you use the recruit points. For me, it barely makes sense to invest in rank A heroes and I will still go with a rank S hero even if the stats aren't perfect simply because they get more leadership points per level and have a higher leadership cap. That means more ships in your fleets. Size of fleets matters and even rank C trons can boost a hero quite a bit.

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    • The idea of having different hp item based on tier is quite inetresting. It can encourage people to level up fast if the higher hp store have more rare item.

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    • ZTrooper wrote:
      It is not hard to get regular rank S heroes. You get 2 recruit points for every hero you invite with regular hero invitations, and 8 points for the next rank invite and 40 points for invites above that. Every 300 points you get a guaranteed rank S invite.

      Since you can get hero invites as gifts, and in the campaign, it's actually pretty quick to get S heroes when you use the recruit points. For me, it barely makes sense to invest in rank A heroes and I will still go with a rank S hero even if the stats aren't perfect simply because they get more leadership points per level and have a higher leadership cap. That means more ships in your fleets. Size of fleets matters and even rank C trons can boost a hero quite a bit.


      There is no guarantee that you will get a hero which you looking for. I told already that i received twice a "trash" heroes, though they are a S-Rank heroes...

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    • Yep...thats why the whole idea that people have about buying their way to the top is flawed. There is enough in-game randomness that you'd need to spend a ton of cash to buy 1st position. Now I'm not saying people dont try - just that its gotta be tough to do and with deep pockets.

      I have S heroes that are not any use in my line up and the strategy that works for me. I have a couple I can change in and out for special conditions. Other than that as kasper says...trash really! - but thats OK! - Top stuff has to be rare! - So Il keep searching for the ones I want.

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    • Do each item in the Honor Shop have a equal chance to get? There are 7 itmens so is each one a 14.28% to get? Or do some items have a higher chance than others? I got skill LD's twice in a row for useless skills.

      I would hate if S Heroes and Planets and Crystals for like 1% or something while Skill LD's are like 50%

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    • yeah. as far as I can tell, that S rank hero is very rare. I got an S planet, but a BUNCH of cosments, crystals, skill LD, etc.

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    • My first time with honor shop I got cosments and my second time, yesterday, I got the S-rank hero lol. Wish I could get the S planet now

      ChuroBurro - The Alliance of Neos
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    • What kind of rank S hero?

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    • Mineralogist! Wha-ha-ha!

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    • Awwwww

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    • What kind of s rank? I believe it said special.

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    • I got a combat master level 10 with counter fire and the specialty was the skill which gave me counter fire level 3.

      ChuroBurro - The Alliance of Neos
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    • With good stat? No govern? Lol

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    • Yeah, now it is lvl 35 and only 13 govern lol. Although it has more def than attack :/

      ChuroBurro - The Alliance of Neos
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    • my S rank special hero from honor shop now is marksman master gold attac 318 (+4) , 17 def ,17 gov , random fire 2 , all acc 45 leader 4479 , shame hes not have all weapon attac % ;DDD  --- Tweed

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    • I really like the random luck. It makes it really satisfying when you finally get what you wanted + you don't have to pay for anything. I think it's nice to see developers making a game where if you have patience then no matter what you CAN get the best prizes.

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    • Yeah the luck part is what makes you keep playing to get that special item you want. It would be boring to have everything so easy, just look at level  70 players lol they were all bored and angry at game because they couldn't do anything else than wait for lower level players to catch up becuase they rushed playing the game and not enjoyed leveling up. Now at least they can do some war but still it's pretty boring to be top level and not being able to do much.

      ChuroBurro - The Alliance of Neos
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    • Speaking for myself I'm not sure I rushed it....unless you call playing it a lot rushing it. I had some help with Crystals as an ex-GH player that really helped. I'm getting hit everyday just like you! I don't have the best ships either! So it needs to be kept in perspective. Use AP wisely, play the game and you will enjoy it whether you win or not.

      There are many items in the game that cannot be bought most of those are rare and high end. That brings the equality! The random factor adds to that in all areas as long as random is not aimed at low end. In any game its a fine line between giving everything up against holding back to make sure gameplay is there for everyone. A game can be made or lost on these decisions. The best games are those that have player connections with the devs/company. One of the best things that Astronest has...and ore importantly being responsive. I may not like an answer but getting one is the most important thing.

      I hope to Astronest make the walk on the line succesfully. Keeping everyone happy is hard...but the focus should be on the active players regardless of level, howeever the actives tend to be cocentrated at the higher levels. If you don't look out for active players they will eventually get bored and go elsewhere. That can be disaster for everyone, Astronest has a good pedigree...so it should be all good.

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    • It doesn't seem very random, getting 200 crystals for the fifth time now.. Spent 400 at once and got 200 crystals twice in a row

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